Atlanta, Little Mac, and Cliff
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 by Ethan Rafuse
This week and last I have been exchanging e-mails with a former colleague at West Point regarding the 1864 election and Atlanta Campaign a thought the readers of this blog might be interested in them. For those who don’t know Cliff Rogers, he is a longtime associate of Mark’s in the OSU mafia and one of the smartest—if not the smartest—guys I have ever crossed paths with in this profession. Sitting in a classroom as he teaches and being mentored by him on my own teaching are experiences I consider myself extremely fortunate to have had. Cliff’s research field, for those who are wondering, is Medieval Military History, (his books are listed here and a site documenting his Hundred Years’ War staff ride is here), and he is the editor of the Journal of Medieval Military History.
Of course, I invite any and all out there who, after reading this, thinks I need to rethink my views to jump in!
Anyway, here is our correspondence:
From: Rogers, C. J. PROF History
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:19 PM
To: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Subject: McClellan questionHi Ethan,
Got a Civil War question for you: what would McClellan have done had he won the 1864 election? Although McPherson et al. argue for Atlanta as a turning point in the war based on the election, it seems to me that even if McClellan had won, he would have pressed on to victory, i.e. Union and emancipation, though he might have done something like offering compensation to slave owners to hasten peace.
What do you think?
Thanks,
CliffFrom: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Sent: Wed 12/17/2008 2:40 PM
To: Rogers, C. J. PROF History
Subject: RE: McClellan question (UNCLASSIFIED)Cliff:
Great to hear from you. We just graduated the February class here at Fort Leavenworth, so the equivalent of summer break has just begun for me. Like Rob [Citino] across the hall from you, I now have lots of books cluttering up my office that I need to get to. Somewhere among them is your terrific volume on the Middle Ages in Greenwood’s Soldiers’ Lives Through History series. Congratulations! And do I ever envy your getting to do a Hundred Years’ War staff ride. Doing Cowpens, Yorktown, and Chancellorsville rides this year was cool–but not as cool as Agincourt or Paris!
Anyway, in response to your query: Atlanta was not a turning point in determining the outcome of the war, which was dictated by the fact that the North’s will to preserve the Union and ability to wage the war were too powerful to be defeated by a primarily conventional Confederate strategy. Also, it is hard to see contingency, as McPherson does, in what was probably an inevitable event. Sherman was too strong and too cautious a commander to give Johnston or Hood sufficient opportunity to do anything that might keep his army out of Atlanta. Moreover, on top of the fall of Atlanta, you also have to have Farragut not winning at Mobile Bay, take away Sheridan’s victories in the Valley, etc.–and assume Grant’s bad luck continues to hold in front of Petersburg. Not likely, and therefore the northern perception of progress in the war that made Lincoln’s victory so decisive holds.
Add to that Lincoln had a clear and simple platform to run on, while McClellan and the Democrats faced the probably impossible challenge (which they met with consummate incompetence) of figuring out how to win the support of those who believed the war should be stopped and immediate negotiations begun, those who supported the war but thought it was being conducted too aggressively militarily, those who supported the war but thought it was not being conducted aggressively enough militarily, those who supported emancipation but not by presidential fiat, those who opposed emancipation under any conditions, those who supported emancipation only with compensation to slaveowners, those who supported the war but thought the national government was being too aggressive in dealing with dissenters, AND those very few who wanted peace at any price. And, even had McClellan somehow pulled this off (something WELL beyond the guy’s capabilities), he just had so much disdain for how the American political system worked and so many irreconcilable enemies in critical positions in the Lincoln administration, that it is hard to see his having a particularly smooth
transition.Your answer to the question strikes me as probably the best-case scenario, but a lot would depend on how long McClellan’s coattails would have been in the 1864 congressional elections (I suspect few, as to maintain his self-image as a man who was above politics he did even less to help any other Democrat out than he did on his own behalf). And then there is the question of whether the Republicans would have been at all cooperative. Republicans would have had a significant presence in Congress no matter what, given how safe so many of their districts were, with the greatest victims at the hands of the Democrats being those who represented more moderate districts. So the Republicans left in Congress would undoubtedly have been quite disinclined to compromise or cooperate with McClellan.
At the same time, it does not seem to me that all of this would have mattered much in March 1865 vis a vis the outcome of the war when McClellan moved into the Executive Mansion, given how much had been ground out of the body and spirit of the Confederacy by that point. But McClellan would have properly seen in his election a mandate for a conciliatory approach to the defeated white South, which ultimately prevailed anyway, albeit a decade later. In the event of a McClellan presidency, the Republicans do not get the political winds blowing for the 13th, 14th, or 15th amendments; nor can they push efforts to reform the South politically or economically. This would have made Reconstruction smoother, although that would not have been a good thing for the freedmen and ultimately not good for the country.
This is no doubt both more and less than you wanted, but as Mark and you have no doubt discerned together, with most counterfactual exercises, one ends up with more questions than answers. I hope there is something you found helpful here, though. Better and more intelligible efforts to address your questions are in Freehling’s Reintegration of American History and Davis, The Cause Lost.
Maybe I will throw this out on Civil Warriors to see what response it gets from others.
I hope all is well with you, Shelly, and Hannah.
Best,
EthanFrom: Rogers, C. J. PROF History
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:19 PM
To: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Subject: RE: McClellan questionThanks also for the kind words on my book. It was fun to research and write, and I do think it breaks some new ground despite its “survey” nature.
The staff ride was indeed awesome– I learned a lot more than I expected at the battlefields.
Your answer is pretty much what I expected, which is good. About the contingency of Atlanta, though– if Johnston had stayed in command and husbanded his men, couldn’t he have defended Atlanta somewhat like Lee defended Petersburg– at least long enough to prevent its capture until after the election?
Our best to Rachel and Corinne.
Cliff
—–Original Message—–
From: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:20 PM
To: ‘Rogers, C. J. PROF History’
Subject: RE: McClellan question (UNCLASSIFIED)Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONECliff:
Although I hardly consider myself an Albert Castel, Richard McMurray, or Steve Davis on the Atlanta Campaign, I have a hard time seeing how any Confederate commander could have followed a much different course of action from the one Hood did in July 1864–or achieved a much different outcome. The Confederates could not just withdraw into the defenses of Atlanta and let Sherman maneuver freely to cut their logistical lifelines and doom the town and its defenders to quick starvation. Given that Sherman had superior numbers, managed them with sensible caution, and had the initiative, the only course of action really available to the defender of Atlanta was to respond to Federal moves and then launch aggressive counterattacks—hoping far more luck would accompany these efforts than anyone familiar with the history of the Army of Tennessee had any hope of even wishing for. Successful or not, these efforts were invariably going to produce considerable casualties for the Confederate defenders, as they ended up doing.
Theoretically, I guess, a Hood or Johnston could have prolonged the fall of Atlanta by choosing not to fight (yeah, right) for their army’s logistics and refuse under any circumstances to leave the town—but that would have entailed accepting the death of his army, and even then he probably would have been compelled by starvation to give up before November. Pemberton holed himself up in Vicksburg in part due to a (futile) hope that Johnston’s army in Mississippi might rescue him. There were no hopes on this score for a Confederate army that holed itself up in Atlanta in 1864 and thus there was no way any Confederate commander would have adopted this course of action. Hence, I stand by my assertion that there was no contingency in the fall of Atlanta and, thus—-unless one is willing to indulges in counterfactual flights of the imagination beyond what the realities of 1864 justify—-no contingency in the election of 1864.
Of course, Mark may dispute some or all of this. Have you addressed this query to him?
Ethan
—–Original Message—–
From: Rogers, C. J. PROF History
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:54 PM
To: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Subject: RE: McClellan question (UNCLASSIFIED)Dear Ethan,
No, I haven’t asked Mark. Maybe I will later, but for now I’m enjoying discussing it with you!
Why the need to respond to Sherman’s maneuvers with aggressive counterattacks? Why not just get in front and block, fighting as defensively as possible, just as Lee was doing? Or put a fraction of his army into Atlanta to hold the defenses, and use the rest to mess with Sherman’s LOC?
Cliff
—–Original Message—–
From: Rafuse, Ethan S Dr CIV USA TRADOC
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:16 PM
To: ‘Rogers, C. J. PROF History’
Subject: RE: McClellan question (UNCLASSIFIED)Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONECliff:
Lee was very aggressive in responding to Grant’s various thrusts at Richmond and Petersburg, launching counterattacks whenever he could. (This is a central theme of the chapter on Petersburg-Richmond in the Lee book I published earlier this year.) This paid dividends in that it made the Federals much more cautious in their movements and following up the successes they achieved, but ultimately was insufficient to tilt the balance against the Federals militarily or politically in 1864 to the extent the Confederacy needed. In any case, Lee required a heck of a lot of luck (much of which he manufactured through his aggressiveness) to be able to hold out as long as he did in front of Petersburg and Richmond.
Operating against Sherman’s logistics seems like a suitable strategy, but I don’t think the Confederates had the forces in theater to both hold Atlanta and dispatch a force of sufficient strength to really mess with the Federal logistics. Sherman, I think would have then just, as he did when Hood tried to go after his logistics after the fall of Atlanta, kept enough forces at Atlanta to advance the operations against the town and still been able to dispatch sufficient forces to neutralize whatever Confederate force might have menaced his rear. Perhaps if Forrest’s forces had been brought over from Mississippi, but they were there for good reasons. Indeed, what Forrest was doing was tying down forces that might otherwise have run wild in Mississippi and Alabama (something completely unacceptable to the Confederate government) or been transferred to Tennessee and north Georgia to further secure Sherman’s LOCs, thus neutralizing Forrest’s similar transfer.
I am throwing our correspondence out on Civil Warriors to bring it to the attention of Mark and the blog’s other followers. You know of course that Mark is a Sherman expert–at least he has been identified as one on TV, so it has to be so!
Best,
Ethan










